30.06 postings

[tristanms]

In Texas the 30.06 rules regarding what a business must display when they wish to keep CHL holders unarmed seems very specific. My question is that if the business does not follow the rules such as where they post 30.06 or letter size or wording is there a point in which the CHL holder would not be breaking the law if he/she carried into that business?

[TexasLawShield]

tristanms,

It is true that there are specific requirements for a 30.06 sign such as contrasting colors, letter height and being displayed in a conspicuous manner. However there is no Supreme Court or Appellate Court case law on what happens when a sign is extremely close but not quite right. This means the issue will be decided by a judge or jury.  So, unless you don't mind being the test case, we believe the safest bet if you see a sign that is "close" is to take your business to a more gun-friendly establishment.

Thank you for the great question.

[yabu]

I recently had occasion to visit my local neighborhood police station located in a strip mall.  Fortunately for me, I had decided to leave my weapon at home when I went.  As I entered the office I noticed a 30.06 sign on the interior wall of the office notifying everyone that guns were prohibited there.  But since the sign was posted on an interior wall of the office - and not at the entrance of the office - a person would have to be inside and on the premises before he would be aware of the sign.  This didn't seem proper to me; but I decided not to make an issue of it to the sergeant on duty.

[tristanms]

Regarding my last post on how closely must the sign be in conformity to 30.06, I was at a movie theater the other day that simply had a sign at the entry point from the lobby to the multiple theaters inside that read "Firearm Prohibited." I didn't even notice it until it was pointed out to me. I probably blew my ability to play ignorant because I was talking to the theater manager about whether they had any intentions of posting a 30.06 when she pointed out their sign. Now I have a verbal notification. I don't want to be a test case since my employment as a public school teacher would be in jeopardy. Maybe once I retire in 7 years I will be more willing. No telling where this issue will be 7 years from now.

[Neighbor]

Hope you didn't explain to the movie lady that the sign she pointed out didn't really mean anything to licensed concealed carry folks.

[chevyss2008]

The same is here at Parkdale mall in Beaumont. While there are legal 30.06 signs inside the mall, and the main enytrance.... they are NOT at every entrance to the mall...You can enter the mall thru Sears and several other stores...and there are NO signs posted there...I thought there was supposed to be signs posted at every entrance into the place where chl is not welcomed...but then again, I dont want to be the test subject in court either....

[Neighbor]

Chevyss2008, I would assume that Sears does not have a problem with CC. Concealed is concealed anyway. I know there are those that say "once you are aware of a legal posting at any entrance, you have been notified. A mall certainly could get complicated I guess. There is the owner of the mall itself, but they are renting/leasing space (control) of portions of the overall building to individual companies that might not feel the same way legally (some might have "no shirt or shoes, no service" and others might not care). BTW I am not a lawyer - just thinking out loud.

[chevyss2008]

Well, if you can enter the main part of the mall by going thru sears where NO signs are posted...How can they do anything? There are No signs entering sears, and there are NO signs from inside sears when you enter the mall...Just thinking out load as well

[james1]

Lake Somerville state park does have a 30.06 sign posted at the entrance if you are carrying a firearm in your vehicle are you unlawfully carrying a firearm at entry into the park  if it is locked away in your vehicle and not on your person ? I have a long travel distance to and from the park and use the boat launch .

[Neighbor]

Is Lake Sommerville a Corp of Engineers lake?

[TexasLawShield]

Lake Somerville is in the Fort Worth District of Army Corp of Engineers. Every district has the ability to enact their own firearms regulations. You may want to consider calling the Fort Worth District and inquire as to their restriction on firearms if there are any.