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Neighbor

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Carry at State Fair
« on: October 04, 2016, 04:41:33 PM »
Anyone know if you can still carry at the State Fair this year as in the past if you showed your LTC. Local news made a special mention that everyone would go through a metal detector and bags would be searched and even said "you need to leave your guns at home". Just wondering.

CongoHarry

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Re: Carry at State Fair
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2016, 04:07:10 PM »
Anyone know if you can still carry at the State Fair this year as in the past if you showed your LTC. Local news made a special mention that everyone would go through a metal detector and bags would be searched and even said "you need to leave your guns at home". Just wondering.


This from the official website:
From:     http://bigtex.com/info/faq/

License to Carry a Handgun
A person holding a valid Texas License to Carry a Handgun (LTC), or a valid concealed handgun license from a reciprocating state, is permitted to enter the Fair with his or her concealed handgun, provided that he or she thereafter fully complies with all applicable laws.  LTC holders are responsible for knowing and complying with all applicable Texas laws.  For example, under Texas Penal Code Section 46.035 a LTC holder is prohibited from carrying a concealed handgun (1) inside Cotton Bowl Stadium or on any other premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place, (2) on the premises of a business that derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, or (3) while intoxicated.
State Fair of Texas prohibits Fair attendees (including LTC holders) from openly carrying handguns while at the Fair.  If an individual attempts to enter the Fair with an openly carried handgun, he or she will not be allowed to enter the Fair unless he or she conceals the handgun (if he or she has a valid LTC) or secures the handgun in his or her vehicle or at some offsite location. If an LTC holder enters the Fair with a concealed handgun and then begins to openly carry the handgun, he or she will be asked to either conceal the handgun or to leave the Fair.
NOTE:  State Fair of Texas does not provide lockers for the storage or checking of weapons for LTC holders, so please plan your visit to the Fair accordingly.  For example, if you plan to attend a game or event in the Cotton Bowl Stadium, please secure your weapon at home or in your vehicle prior to entering the fairgrounds.
The State Fair of Texas has received inquiries about its decision not to allow open carry of handguns during the Fair and would like to clear up some of the questions that have been raised.  It is important to understand that the State Fair of Texas is—and always has been—a private entity.  The Fair leases property from the City of Dallas but is not part of the City or controlled by the City.  Also, many of you have read or heard recently about a private organization that may begin operating Fair Park as a whole. That is a different organization that is not related to the Fair.
The State Fair of Texas has long been, and continues to be, a strong supporter of the rights of responsible gun owning Texans.  For that reason, the Fair has long allowed Fair attendees with concealed handgun licenses to carry their handguns while at the Fair (except for locations prohibited by law).
With the recently enacted open-carry law, the State Fair of Texas considered whether to allow openly carried handguns during the Fair.  After carefully considering the issue, the Fair has decided to prohibit open carry, while continuing to allow concealed carry.  This decision is consistent with an August 9, 2016 opinion letter issued by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, in which the Attorney General confirmed that the law which prohibits the government from banning handguns from most government property (Texas Government Code 411.209) applies only to bans implemented by the government and does not override the rights of a private entity that happens to operate on property leased from the government.  In that situation, the private entity is no different than any other business operating on private property.
We know that this is an important issue for many Texans, and that the Fair’s decision may disappoint potential fairgoers who regularly and responsibly practice open carry.  However, the Fair strongly believes that allowing concealed carry and prohibiting open carry is a reasonable compromise that best ensures the safety and comfort of all Fair attendees. 

Neighbor

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Re: Carry at State Fair
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2016, 08:14:26 PM »
Thanks for the detailed info.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2016, 08:19:27 PM by Neighbor »

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Re: Carry at State Fair
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2016, 03:07:11 PM »
Seems fair enough a position to me.  Carrying openly in such a large crowd could encourage attempts to strip a person of their weapon, with the potential for a lot of innocent people to be injured or worse.

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Carry at State Fair
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2017, 07:48:55 AM »
Can they legally make the entire State Fair Grounds a "Gun Free Zone" and prevent Legal Conceal Carry? It seems that the "sellers" at the fair are "tenants" and the fair grounds are public property?

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Re: Carry at State Fair
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2017, 05:03:13 PM »
Based on CongoHarry's post, it doesn't sound like they are making it a gun free zone. The media, as usual, didn't get everything straight.